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		<title>Comment on Relationship Advice:  How to know when to leave a relationship by neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 01:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michael,

I&#039;m actually working on a series of articles to help clarify how I think we can make relationships work &quot;for real&quot;.  It sounds like you can see your pattern plainly enough - and given your description it seems likely that if you &quot;look for someone else&quot; you&#039;re going to end up just in the same place with someone else.  Because, as you astutely observe - the problem is probably not her - it&#039;s within you.

I think that it&#039;s a REAL challenge, especially as a guy, to figure out what to do once you&#039;ve won your girl.  You get that boost in significance and certainty about yourself, but...then what?  The nice thing is that there is a &quot;what&quot; to shoot for that gets to the heart of the matter.  Why are we in relationships anyway?  We&#039;re there to experience love.  And love is an action.  What I think brings us true joy is experiencing the kind of love that gives for giving&#039;s sake, that gives for the pleasure of giving, for the magic of seeing how you can actually light up another person.  The best relationships magnify our experience - our lives are greater because of the relationship.  And having that kind of relationship is completely within your control - though it will present its own risks and challenges.

She&#039;s asking you if you&#039;re committed - and the answer currently, given your actions, is clearly &quot;no&quot;.  However, it is probably a sign of how much she cares about you that she&#039;s even willing to give you the option of saying &quot;yes&quot;.  And making a real go of it.

You can get over your resentment if that&#039;s what you choose to do.  You can learn how to love, how to be truly intimate with a woman, if that&#039;s what you choose to do.  Or you can keep sampling from the buffet - if that&#039;s what you choose to do.

My gut tells me, though, that you&#039;re writing because you&#039;re ready for something different.  I&#039;d be happy to help give you some thoughts on how to approach it, and some strategies for breaking some of your old patterns.  It&#039;s actually pretty easy to do.  It&#039;s like you&#039;re standing in front of two doorways.  And you already know what will happen if you go through door #1.  Door #2 is a bit more mysterious.  You have some good ideas about it, and some fears about it.  But once you walk through it, and see what it&#039;s really like to be loving AND truly committed, then door #1 starts to lose its power and appeal.  When things get tough it will challenge you.  But even in those circumstances you can frame &quot;difficulty&quot; as an opportunity for you to rise to the challenge and show your partner, show yourself, what you&#039;re made of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michael,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually working on a series of articles to help clarify how I think we can make relationships work &#8220;for real&#8221;.  It sounds like you can see your pattern plainly enough &#8211; and given your description it seems likely that if you &#8220;look for someone else&#8221; you&#8217;re going to end up just in the same place with someone else.  Because, as you astutely observe &#8211; the problem is probably not her &#8211; it&#8217;s within you.</p>
<p>I think that it&#8217;s a REAL challenge, especially as a guy, to figure out what to do once you&#8217;ve won your girl.  You get that boost in significance and certainty about yourself, but&#8230;then what?  The nice thing is that there is a &#8220;what&#8221; to shoot for that gets to the heart of the matter.  Why are we in relationships anyway?  We&#8217;re there to experience love.  And love is an action.  What I think brings us true joy is experiencing the kind of love that gives for giving&#8217;s sake, that gives for the pleasure of giving, for the magic of seeing how you can actually light up another person.  The best relationships magnify our experience &#8211; our lives are greater because of the relationship.  And having that kind of relationship is completely within your control &#8211; though it will present its own risks and challenges.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s asking you if you&#8217;re committed &#8211; and the answer currently, given your actions, is clearly &#8220;no&#8221;.  However, it is probably a sign of how much she cares about you that she&#8217;s even willing to give you the option of saying &#8220;yes&#8221;.  And making a real go of it.</p>
<p>You can get over your resentment if that&#8217;s what you choose to do.  You can learn how to love, how to be truly intimate with a woman, if that&#8217;s what you choose to do.  Or you can keep sampling from the buffet &#8211; if that&#8217;s what you choose to do.</p>
<p>My gut tells me, though, that you&#8217;re writing because you&#8217;re ready for something different.  I&#8217;d be happy to help give you some thoughts on how to approach it, and some strategies for breaking some of your old patterns.  It&#8217;s actually pretty easy to do.  It&#8217;s like you&#8217;re standing in front of two doorways.  And you already know what will happen if you go through door #1.  Door #2 is a bit more mysterious.  You have some good ideas about it, and some fears about it.  But once you walk through it, and see what it&#8217;s really like to be loving AND truly committed, then door #1 starts to lose its power and appeal.  When things get tough it will challenge you.  But even in those circumstances you can frame &#8220;difficulty&#8221; as an opportunity for you to rise to the challenge and show your partner, show yourself, what you&#8217;re made of.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Relationship Advice:  How to know when to leave a relationship by Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 10:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Neil,
Im 41, never been in a really serious relationship, never lived with a woman, just had lots and lots of casual sexual relationships, and a few relationships that i stayed in for a year or so because i didnt want to hurt them, or didnt want to lose their approval, not sure which.  Im pretty obsessed with others approval.  And i know this fuels all the casual sex.  Im in the first *real* relationship of my life it feels like. And Ive been trying to get out of it since i got in it 2 years ago.  She would always talk me out of it, and i probably still resent her for that, and when I finally broke up with her a year ago, and she just started seeing someone else, i went on a 6 week solo holiday i was miserable as sin, full of regret, and didnt look at another girl.  I told her this and we got back together.  Now im working interstate for a few mths and ive kissed another woman and then put an add on a stupid dating site. she found out about both and wants to know once and for all am i committed to this. this sounds ridiculous in writing i can see, but your earlier reply to simon about whether he had given his relationship every change really hit home.  i havent, and i think i could make it work if i did.  problem is as much as i love her and respect her i baulk at committing fully. I still resent her for the fights when she would want to talk about committment and i didnt, and the feelings i have that i got back with her so as not to hurt her.  ive made a life of taking the easy way out and im sick of it. but ive also spend my life living for others approval and im sick of that too.  and i dont want to hurt her any more just for my own therapy. So do i do the things in your list to give it a decent go, or do i take the easy option and look for someone else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Neil,<br />
Im 41, never been in a really serious relationship, never lived with a woman, just had lots and lots of casual sexual relationships, and a few relationships that i stayed in for a year or so because i didnt want to hurt them, or didnt want to lose their approval, not sure which.  Im pretty obsessed with others approval.  And i know this fuels all the casual sex.  Im in the first *real* relationship of my life it feels like. And Ive been trying to get out of it since i got in it 2 years ago.  She would always talk me out of it, and i probably still resent her for that, and when I finally broke up with her a year ago, and she just started seeing someone else, i went on a 6 week solo holiday i was miserable as sin, full of regret, and didnt look at another girl.  I told her this and we got back together.  Now im working interstate for a few mths and ive kissed another woman and then put an add on a stupid dating site. she found out about both and wants to know once and for all am i committed to this. this sounds ridiculous in writing i can see, but your earlier reply to simon about whether he had given his relationship every change really hit home.  i havent, and i think i could make it work if i did.  problem is as much as i love her and respect her i baulk at committing fully. I still resent her for the fights when she would want to talk about committment and i didnt, and the feelings i have that i got back with her so as not to hurt her.  ive made a life of taking the easy way out and im sick of it. but ive also spend my life living for others approval and im sick of that too.  and i dont want to hurt her any more just for my own therapy. So do i do the things in your list to give it a decent go, or do i take the easy option and look for someone else?</p>
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